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February 13, 2007

Radio Free Skaro #23 - cricket and celery

Our retro-rama continues with Peter Davison's era. It may have started with a whimper (Castrovalva) but it ended with a certifiable masterpiece (Caves of Androzani). Magnificent! An hour and more of ranting by Steven and Warren, further proving we really are total and complete nerds. (feed, web, direct download)

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On February 14, 2007 12:48 AM, jabberwocky said:

Caves of Androzani: A masterpiece or a piece of something. I have to sa that yes that is an episode that has its good points but I don't think that I would call it a masterpiece. Still I enjoyed PD as the Doctor. He was 30 when he got the role. But he did get the role the year before.

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On February 14, 2007 1:50 AM, I Am Steven said:

Yeah, I'm kinda confused by all the episode guides (more than a few out there) that state Davison's tenure as being from 1981-1984. I mean, sure, most of his first season was made in 1981, and he was cast in 1981, but that don't mean nothing.

Cripes, though, Freyburg! This one was posted, like, minutes after we had done it. Was it live? Or Memorex?

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On February 14, 2007 1:56 PM, Chris Burgess said:

Random musings:

Four to Doomsday: Quite often panned, I always dug it.

Visitation: could never get into it but it was definitely solid. It also had John Savident (now) late of Coronation Street (one of only 3 times I can think of a Corrie actor on DW along with Helen Worth in Colony in Space and Bruno Langley in Dalek/The Long Game).

And that's where I have to stop for now as I'm using the Dashboard widget Mike whipped up to listen, and I made the mistake of pausing the podcast and it went back to the start when I resumed. Hopefully Warren will fix the link for the direct download version sooner than later... =)

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On February 14, 2007 1:57 PM, Chris Burgess said:

Or, I can just shut up and get it from the libsyn page.

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On February 14, 2007 2:37 PM, Jean-Paul Samson said:

Speaking of blowing up the ol' sonic: http://members.shaw.ca/doctor_who/sonicburn.jpg

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On February 14, 2007 2:41 PM, I Am Steven said:

I think William Russell was also on Corrie at one point in the 1990's, but I'm not 100% certain. John Savident was also on Blake's 7 once, though, and I don't think that any other actor in history was on BOTH Blake's 7 and Doctor Who. Nope. Not one.

As for the sonic screwdriver pic - that's funny, because mine looked exactly like that when I put it in the microwave for five seconds.

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On February 14, 2007 2:45 PM, Chris Burgess said:

Earthshock: I quite like it. Perhaps not as droolingly so as you guys, but it's still great. =) The mere fact there's a major villain in it and it doesn't have the villian's info in the story title alone makes it a classic. Adric's death... yeah, it was meh, but no mention of Matthew's horrible acting near the end? The drastic recoil from the console before the sparks go off? Aww. Perfect for derisive mockery.

Arc of Infinity: Peter Davison with rice krispies on his face. Costume genius! Not...

Snakedance: I agree with Steven that it was far better than Kinda, however that doesn't say much. That's one of the ones quite often panned but I actually enjoyed it. The story was there (kinda, heh) and the pacing was good.

Five Doctors: The Raston Warrior Robot was indeed cool, and it was too bad it was a one-off. That being said, feast your eyes on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz_83QDfzlc

Warriors of the Deep: The storyline is a bit iffy, but it's certainly got a interesting feel to it with the close-quarters being nearly omnipresent. Plus, the Sea Devils and the Silurians together... you know you were hoping for that to happen ever since seeing the Pertwee era. That is, of course, for those who didn't see the Davison stories first (which is probably none of us). Plus it had some cool SF concepts in it such as the human/computer direct interfacing.

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On February 14, 2007 2:48 PM, Jean-Paul Samson said:

Yes, I believe that Lionheart dropped The Five Doctors from the regular Davison package sold to PBS stations. I think you had to buy it as a separate special, a way to milk stations for more money obviously.

I remember in later years KSPS actually bought The Five Doctors Special Edition as a pledge drive special. Very exciting, new effects and extended scenes. I had only ever seen the original edition at that point. Glued to my TV, I awaited the new time scoop effects, etc. ...

And there it was, the same old black monoliths. And there were no new scenes. Despite all their advertising and claims made during the pledge drive, this was sadly the original version of The Five Doctors. Special edition my foot.

I eventually saw the revamped version when released on DVD. Although I enjoyed having some of those newly lengthened scenes, the replacement special effects were dire. I much prefer the black triangular time scoop over the swirly computer graphic equivalent.

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On February 14, 2007 2:50 PM, Chris Burgess said:

Indeed William Russell was on Corrie... I didn't know that one, as it was about a year or two before I started to watch the show so I missed his time on there. Peter Kay was on Corrie but I had no idea who he was before Love & Monsters. I suppose if we were really nitpicky we could look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Coronation_Street_actors and find a whole bunch of crossovers. =)

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On February 14, 2007 2:53 PM, Chris Burgess said:

Five Doctors aside, because you have no choice, I have yet to bother watching any of the revamped effects on the DW DVDs (eg. Ark in Space). I don't think I ever will either, simply because I remember the episodes as they were and I don't care to taint those memories, even if the new effects are wonderful.

Oh, and Frazer Hines was in Corrie, too... before being on Who.

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On February 14, 2007 3:02 PM, I am Steven. said:

I think we could make a shorter list of those who were not on Corrie and Doctor Who. Queen Elizabeth, for one, although JNT tried his damnedest to get her on "Silver Nemesis". I just saw an interview on a morning chat show with Tom Baker where he says that he would like to play an aged transvestite on Corrie. I'd watch that!

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On February 14, 2007 9:20 PM, Jean-Paul Samson said:

One of the stranger scenes in Resurrection is when members of the prison ship crew light up cigs on the bridge, an attempt to make the programme cooler and more adult. Perhaps I wouldn't blink an eye in any other show, but in Doctor Who it is awfully odd to see characters smoke cigs. And besides, I would think they'd be an explosive hazard in the oxygenated atmosphere of a spaceship.

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On February 14, 2007 9:24 PM, Jean-Paul Samson said:

I think it was Prince Edward who was asked to appear in Silver Nemesis, not the Queen herself. See the story notes here: http://www.gallifreyone.com/episode.php?id=7k

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On February 14, 2007 10:20 PM, I Am Steven said:

Prince Edward? They aimed that low? God, Eddie opened up the new Save-On Foods in Ellerslie a couple months ago.

Smoking on the bridge in the 22nd century (or whenever it was) seems a more outdated vision of the future to me than computers with tape reels.

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On February 15, 2007 9:58 AM, Warren Frey said:

I agree about the smoking...to this day it seems really out of place. And the whole "what is that smell" thing didn't really work, either. Otherwise, Resurrection is one of the greats. One of the things I never mentioned in the podcast is how much I loved the samurai style Dalek helmets. Dunno if they'd fly nowadays, but at the time they looked real badass.

As I said in the podcast, Caves is an absolute triumph. Gotta disagree with you there, Jabberwocky. :)

Other things I didn't get around to mentioning in the podcast...Nyssa's ridiculous gravity-embracing skirt in Terminus, or in fact any mention of Nyssa whatsoever. Actually, we didn't cover much about Tegan other than her outfits, making us no better than Janet Fielding. :)

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On February 15, 2007 10:07 AM, I am Steven. said:

That is funny about Nyssa. She was only on the show for two years; what else does a girl have to do to get mentioned? She obviously left an indeliable impression on us during that time.

A friend of mine who enjoys the new series asked to see some old episodes, so I leant him "Caves". He adored it, and asked to see many others after that. Funny, though - the requests to see more ended with "The Web Planet"...

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On February 15, 2007 1:59 PM, Chris Burgess said:

As far as impressions of Nyssa go, friends of mine (and Mike) from way back have a daughter they called Nyssa. She'd be probably 8 or 10 by now. Alas they didn't name their other child after a DW character.

Nyssa's sort of like the forgotten companion, and rightly so. You've got the annoyance that is Adric, the greater annoyance that is Tegan, the murderous streak of Turlough, and the mams on Peri during the era. Terminus costuming aside, Nyssa really doesn't do a great deal during her time with Davison (other than the dual role in Black Orchid).

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On February 15, 2007 9:24 PM, Warren Frey said:

Nice to hear from you, Vindice! Just out of curiosity, where did you hear/find out about RDS? Almost everyone commenting here knows each other IRL, so it's really cool to have a fan of the show who isn't a product of late-80's Edmonton Who fandom. :)

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On February 16, 2007 9:48 AM, Warren Frey said:

Cool! Welcome aboard, Vindice!

There's plenty more episodes too, though most of it is us waxing on about the 2nd season and Torchwood.

I tried listening to other Who podcasts myself, but Podshock is too much of a slog to get through (though looking at our longer episodes, who am I to talk) and Podcast Who just isn't my style. I vastly prefer shows with more than one host, since there's more byplay and a chance for differing opinions. Plus they're a heck of a lot easier to produce, in that neither host is talking to dead air. Some people can pull off the one-host thing (Retrogamingradio and Maccast spring to mind) but I'm not one of them.

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On February 16, 2007 6:14 PM, I am Steven. said:

That "one host is bad" thing goes for most, if not all, talk radio, too, in my opinion. I haven't listened to many other podcasts, especially about who, but one person talking to himself can, I imagine, get kinda broing. I haven't listened to many RFS episodes, either, actually! Whenever I do, all that ever happens is me asking myself repeatedly, "Do I really sound like that?".

As for Nyssa, Davison must have liked her because she performed her duty (ask questions and accept the answers the Doctor gives her) and seemed happy to be there. Tegan, apart from one brief positive comment in "Time-Flight", always seemed to want to anywhere but the TARDIS for three damn years. Whiner.

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On February 16, 2007 7:00 PM, Chris Burgess said:

Neat, we have disappearing comments!

I always wondered if Nyssa was an unnecessary companion given she was technologically capable and smarter than the average human companions... especially considering Adric was similar and there first. Mind you, I don't think I'd care to have seen Matthew Waterhouse try out Nyssa's Terminus costume.

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On February 16, 2007 11:29 PM, I Am Steven said:

I just finished the Troughton era on Friday night. I think Season 5 was the bext of his era, and you can tell that they're kind of running out of steam as Season 6 progresses. However, and I know both Warren and I have already spoken highly of "The War Games" in the past, but - wow. I watched all four and a half got dang hours worth of Troughton's finale all in one sitting and was riveted through the entire thing. Absolutely brilliant, even after having watched it again for the 15th time.

A damn, damn shame that most of Troughton's stuff is missing, as it was a lovely era.

Oh, yeah, and we talk about Colin Baker's tenure next week...

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